![]() From there I moved to sport jiu jitsu, which has a little bit of punching, but is still mostly down on the ground, again I felt let down. Again I felt let down, like I wasted my time again. It’s like who can dance better, but it has nothing to do with real life, so I felt like I wasted a lot of time, you know? From there I went to collegiate wrestling, and I became a state collegiate wrestling champion, and I thought this is where it’s at, right? Then I saw a boxing match, and I thought, yeah, I can’t do that though, those guys would kill me, that sucks. It doesn’t actually work in practical fighting situations. It was one of those evolutions for me because after I got my black belt in Tae Kwon Do, I kind of felt let down, because in a weird way Tae Kwon Do is sort of a lie. ![]() I wanted to name my son after a Dragon Ball Z character (laughs) -I’ve always been into martial arts and training my entire life, so I’ve always thought you ascend to a certain level when you become stronger than the average person. PHOENIX JONES: Well, I’ve read comics and watched movies and have had an interest in this since the beginning of time. TEA KRULOS: Why don’t we start by you telling me about yourself and how you got started with all of this, when and why this all began for you. I am presenting it here without editorial comment- you can make of it what you will. ![]() It has been edited for clarity, but not content and appears in it's entirety. What follows is a transcription of my interview with Phoenix Jones, conducted November 23, 2010. ![]()
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